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miden
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: Kronos 73 has arrived but.......

My new K 73 has finally arrived and it sounds far better than I had ever anticipated!!! But a couple of questions, based around my readings of this forum : I am trying to get it to display the symptoms of this keybed problem. But I cannot ... Can someone explain EXACTLY what it is I need to do to test the keybed on the Kronos? Or is it a fault that appears with time and use? OR is it simply that not ALL keybeds are affected and I have been lucky in the unit I have?? Please don't misunderstand, I DON'T want to find anything, just trying to make sure that if the problem is not here now it won't appear in the future. The other thing is should I update to OS 1.6? I have been reading some "bad press" in the forum about it not being fully tested and creating "issues" for experienced owners. Can anyone please confirm it is okay to go ahead and load 1.6.... One other thing, can anyone please direct me to a series of videos or "KARMA For Dummies" / "KARMA 101" type web-pages or resources? Thanks

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mathieumaes
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject:

Check this video, you'll see the problem up close: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiWTEBMCwak _________________ Old gig setup: Yamaha S90, Roland Fantom XR, Hammond XM-1, M-Audio Axiom 61 2011 gig setup: Korg Kronos 88

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miden
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject:

Thanks, yeah I had already seen and heard that....didn't really answer my questions though , just highlighted the issue....again....

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Francois
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Location: Northants - UK

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:35 pm Post subject:

Not all the 73/88 have a problem such as the one you refer to. So count yourself lucky if your unit hasn't got it, and carry on enjoying it. The old saying "don't fix what ain't broken" still applies

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Mister088
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Joined: 10 Aug 2011
Posts: 101

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject:

I had a 73 that i had to return... the problem is that when you play notes softly without pedal and you try to play legato (Smooth) not choppy, the notes cut off shorter than they shot;d. it sounds unnatural. If you're just banging out chords, you won't notice it. I'm still waiting for the "all clear" before i get a 73 again. otherwise, love the keyboard. cheers

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Melodialworks Music
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Posts: 522

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:58 pm Post subject:

Mister088 wrote:

I'm still waiting for the "all clear" before i get a 73 again.

I don't know about the 73, but Sweetwater Sound has stated that the last shipment of 88's they received , and all future shipments have the new keybed. You might want to call them for more information.

On this basis, I've ordered an 88, delivery expected in June. (I'm in Canada). I had to return the first two units, which both had the problematic keybeds. Here's hoping that the third times the charm!

Lawrence

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steve m
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Location: AUSTRALIA

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:30 pm Post subject:

Hi Dennis Congratulations on your new purchase. You will find Karma very powerful but different from the arranger backing that you are familiar with. There are some great Karma demo videos available for the Oasys, which is very similar to Kronos and will help you to get started, here :- http://www.karma-lab.com/vp/klvp2.html?ch=sounds&playID=409 click on the top left hand 'select channel and media' tab and navigate to Karma Oasys workstation and check out the Karma intro video and others I will be interested to see how you go with it, if you MIDI it to your PA3X you will have a very impressive setup. _________________ Steve M Kurzweil K2000, Yamaha CS1X, Minimoog, Oasys76, GEM Promega 3, Korg PA3X, Kurzweil PC3K8 Too many toys are never enough!

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miden
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:46 am Post subject:

Thanks Steve...I will check out that link... Dennis PS: the PA3 is gone m8, it went to make way for the K!! I just woke up one morning and decided I was OVER arrangers....even with lots of styles etc, they just get so repetitive and well, boring. It was one of the things I loved about the arps on the Yammie XS/XF series... I could load one of those up and then just jam for half an hour...but load up a style on the PA3 and within about 5 minutes I was looking for something different.. It is why I really want to give the Karma thing a go....Now if we can only convince Korg to take up Karma 3 from SK!!!! From what I ahve seen and read about what Karma 3 is doing for the Motif!!!! In fact if one did not HAVE to take a PC to a gig to run it on the Motif, I would have had a Motif XF + Karma 3 instead!!!!

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Dniss
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:13 am Post subject:

Congrats on the new purchase! If it works fine, it prolly is OK. I have a 73 also and works like a charm. Enjoy!

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1jordyzzz
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Location: Indonesia

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:00 am Post subject:

what's the serial number on your kronos? _________________ Love my kronos 88 Love my yamaha psr s910 as well Korg Kronos 88, Yamaha PSR s910, Korg C720, Yamaha DTX 520, Focusrite Scarlett 18i6, a pair of Yamaha HS80 in (soon not to be) an unproperly treated room..

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miden
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:08 am Post subject:

1jordyzzz wrote:

what's the serial number on your kronos?

1886

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mathieumaes
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject:

miden wrote:

PS: the PA3 is gone m8, it went to make way for the K!! I just woke up one morning and decided I was OVER arrangers....even with lots of styles etc, they just get so repetitive and well, boring.

I don't think you can compare the features of an arranger with the features you have in Kronos (Karma).

Other then having an arpeggiator, I don't see how I can benefit from the more advanced Karma styles and drumkits.

Now, if the Karma editor was included with the Kronos, that would be a different story
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Old gig setup: Yamaha S90, Roland Fantom XR, Hammond XM-1, M-Audio Axiom 61
2011 gig setup: Korg Kronos 88

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miden
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject:

mathieumaes wrote:

miden wrote:

PS: the PA3 is gone m8, it went to make way for the K!! I just woke up one morning and decided I was OVER arrangers....even with lots of styles etc, they just get so repetitive and well, boring.

I don't think you can compare the features of an arranger with the features you have in Kronos (Karma).

Other then having an arpeggiator, I don't see how I can benefit from the more advanced Karma styles and drumkits.

Now, if the Karma editor was included with the Kronos, that would be a different story

I wasn't...the comment was general info for for Stephen as we do know each other through other means

And the IS a Karma editor for Kronos - I am about to buy it too!!

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mathieumaes
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject:

miden wrote:

I am about to buy it too!!

Exactly my point :p

I really dislike the fact that there was a flyer inside the box of my Kronos that tried to sell me third party software which probably should've been included for free...
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Old gig setup: Yamaha S90, Roland Fantom XR, Hammond XM-1, M-Audio Axiom 61
2011 gig setup: Korg Kronos 88

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runningman67
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Location: Manchester UK

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject:

It's a rubber compound that doesn't behave as it should, which is being replaced by Korg. It's where the key strikes causing an unnatural rebound. It's a simple fix I believe. My keyboard is being fixed at the moment. _________________ https://m.youtube.com/user/1967runningman

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